2015
One of the most curious developments of my entire professional career has been watching the “hijacking” of an entire industry. For over 35 years I have been involved in the arena of environmental safety and health. During that span I have been employed by a state OSHA agency, the National Safety Council, and several other organizations before beginning a private manufacturing and consulting business. I have witnessed and participated in the development of many critical accomplishments and events, including the emergence of safety committees, the birth of the asbestos control industry, concentrated efforts at controlling chemicals (HazCom), the realization that environmental lead was as serious as industrial lead exposure (and much more difficult to control), the growth of indoor air quality in the public consciousness, and the explosion of concerns about mold.
With all but the last issue, increased awareness of a hazard led to industry responses and, ultimately, to government intervention in the form of safety and health regulations. In all these responses there was an underlying theme that any contractor who worked to correct those hazards should be focused on quality control—making sure the work was completed safely and correctly. The organizations tasked with correcting serious problems were not hamstrung by artificial restrictions on their efforts to ensure quality, even if the level of hazard dictated a second set of eyes to approve critical operations.
WHEN IS SELF-CORRECTION A CONFLICT OF INTEREST
The mold remediation industry was birthed in large part by lawsuits. As such, it is no wonder that a strong component of early developments was processes designed to limit potential liability. An early catch-phrase that was drummed into industry participants was that checking their own remediation work was a “conflict of interest”.
Contractors were told that they did not have the expertise or experience to evaluate job performance, even when they were responsible for getting the work done. This was driven to the extreme by zealous consultants and regulators in various states who dictated that contractors should not collect samples from any of their projects. This is in complete opposition to the majority of industries with potentially hazardous exposures where the contractor is responsible for ongoing quality control—including the collection (and sometimes analysis) of personal and area samples. Examples abound, including coal mining, nuclear power, chemical refineries, welding, sandblasting, food production, healthcare, and a host of others.
A MATTER OF TRUST
Obviously, there are different opinions about the conflict of interest issue as it relates to mold work. In the early 2000s the prevailing view was that, because of “potential health effect,” third-party testing was desirable. This later morphed into the belief that remediators should not collect quality control samples. I find this interesting because from a health standpoint there is more immediate risk from sewage backflow, category three water losses, and trauma scene cleanup, yet none of those require third-party testing. Restoration contractors are quite capable of using instruments that evaluate cleanliness, do moisture mapping, and verify that dry down is complete—and they are expected to do so; but somehow they cannot be trusted to properly collect mold-related air or surface samples?
The issue becomes even more convoluted when industry guidelines and some state regulations restrict contractors from conducting mold investigations and then engaging in work on the same project under the high-minded principle of avoiding a conflict of interest. If this same approach was accepted in other industries, including safety-sensitive work, the resulting costs would be magnified with little appreciable value.
Imagine the folly of telling a mechanic that he may check whether the brakes on your car are in need of repair but restricting him from changing them out. A similar argument about conflict of interest could be made for the surgeon who diagnoses a tumor. Would it make any sense at all to then restrict the doctor who discovered the problem from fixing it? In both these examples it can reasonably be argued that the potential safety and health consequences are both more immediate and more severe than many fungal contamination situations, yet no one suggests that evaluation and correction of such problems is a conflict of interest.
YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE HONESTY
In essence, it all comes down to honesty. While there are cases of mechanics defrauding customers and doctors performing unnecessary surgeries, those instances are the exception, not the prevailing modus operandi. In my experience, the same is true in the fungal control industry. If you are an honest contractor and have a reputation for such business ethics, there is little risk to the customer if you investigate and remediate, and then even check your own work. While there is no guarantee that a customer will never challenge a contractor’s work, the legal system eventually roots out the truly bad actors.
Even so, contractors who perform multiple tasks on the same project (where such activities are not restricted by state rules) are best protected if they explain their procedures upfront and get the client to agree to them. Think about the form you are required to sign to rent a car. The rental agency not only asks for your signature, they also have you initial each section of the contract that describes specifics of the rental agreement (decline insurance, fill gas tank, etc.). Mold remediators can do something similar. Lay it out clearly. Be specific about what will be done to ensure quality control (use the term “post-remediation evaluation” from the S520 Standard). Let the client know that they may have a third party come in and check your work afterward, if they choose to. If they do opt for a third party, make sure the client knows that you the contractor need to know this at the beginning of the project so that it can be determined what evaluation criteria will be used and so that you can arrange proper scheduling. With this level of communication you and your client should have similar expectations as well as documentation of your mutual agreement on the plan.
Conflict of interest is an overused term in the mold control industry. There is no conflict when a remediation contractor verifies that their work was completed successfully—it is a responsibility they bear whether they understand the implications or not, and whether or not they confirm it with their own testing.
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Posted by Remediation for Sensitized Individuals on Monday, May 4, 2015
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Comments
2015-05-04 16:16:05
Hooray! Good article. Imagine going to the top Oncologist with a 98% success rate at healing cancer patients. He diagnoses a patient, assures them of success, so they schedule treatment with a different, less successful Dr due to conflict of interest, wirh the first. I just checked in with a top referred mold/house inspector on a border town of two states and inquired of his lack of appropriate business filings with the state he did not live in, but promoted himself (with high personal regard for his certifications and a shaming finger pointing at remediation companies that also peovide sampling) as being highly ethical and the only one of his kind in the area. When i questioned him about his standing in the non-resident state, he proudly responded that that state does not require license for mold or house or inspections. He is correct. Although he is unethically selling inspections without being registered with that states Secretary of State or Dept of Revenue. This same guy would likely point his shaming finger at my company for testing, inspecting, remediating and rebuilding! Meanwhile our company uses a semi annual “self-test” protocol to sample our vehicles and facilities to guard against cross contamination of mold to our own families and future client buildings and families. We always encourage our clients to get a second opinion. No tricks, no bull, just trying to do business the right way. Our referral network is our primary source of new clients. Life is great when you treat your customers like your own family.
2015-05-04 17:27:33
AMEN!…well said and put…
2015-05-04 19:14:11
Michael, I’m not sure that is correct that honesty in the remediation industry cannot be legislated. I think it could — just not directly. Gov’t agencies fund teachings of the private-sector medical community via non-profit organizations such as the Association of Occupational and Environmental Clinics. IF the physicians we taught that improper remediation has the capability to cause (or aid to cause) serious illnesses; THEN the risk/liability for causation via improper remediation will be too great to ignore in the industry. It will become financially feasible for the remediators’ clients (primarily insurers) to assure the jobs are done properly rather than face the liability for known causation of illness. Those who don’t do stellar remediations will be driven out of business because they are too costly for the insurer.
2015-05-05 12:37:46
“Can honesty be legislated?” There has to be a defined determination of what honesty is before honesty can be considered enough of an absolute to be legislated; honesty is too subjective. Consequently, there are many standards of care (not for all environmental stressors) that dictate that an “independent Indoor Environmental Professional” perform such “assessments” (e.g., S520, Standard & Reference Guide for Professional Mold Remediation); furthermore, OSHA requires that – on every single job – that contractors have a “competent person” on-site for the purpose of worker and environmental safety and health. These “competent persons” have, often, by OSHA been defined as “industrial hygienists”. Therefore, I wouldn’t go so far as to say those who discuss this issue and outline the regulations and standards that issue protections in the form of conflict of interest (defined) are over “zealous consultants and regulators”. Within the legal community these same standards and regulations have been used to throw out the testimony of contractors where they have performed both testing and remediation work. (The legal weight of proof is not whether or not motivation WAS corrupted; rather, if there is a POTENTIAL for the corruption of motivation.) These are serious things for any contractor to consider in their risk-management organization. Failure to do so can create situations where one’s cost of business increase, fines and citations or legal burdens become impressive and costly, competitive advantages are lost, or ethics become questioned making it harder to get quality team members when necessary.
2015-05-05 21:40:42
The better enlightened one in any situation will do what is right, even if damned. OSHA is not my moral basis, nor will it ever be. It has its place. A few guilty does not the whole make. Just dealt with a ” i’m the only certified inspector of my kind” home inspector who shames everyone who tests/inspects AND remediates. Meanwhile he serves clients in two states, only being registered and legal in one! Some need oversight, some do not. How do you set the perfect system? Keep the govt out of it and buyer beware, buyer be smart. The day i am forced to be encumbered with a hygienist is the day i quit. The day i meet a great, non-ego centric hygienst, i take him/her to lunch and forge a lasting friendship and working relationship. When i need them, i call them. Otherwise, for the average WDB-Mold situation, they are not needed to duplicate what i can already identify and repair. I always encourage clients to seek a second qualified opinion. By qualified, i mean someone who knows what they are seeing and how to prescribe, not necessarily the ones who have a diploma/certificate. A recent mold/VOC job proved the gardener as smart as any third party i have ever met or worked with. He quit school when he was done with the eighth grade and got his GED years later with a perfect passing score on the test. Proper insurance is helpful to reduce liabilty. We have run the worst scenarios against our policy and will happily proceed. Pinto was instrumental in our review of liabilty issues and worker safety.
2015-05-05 14:20:00
So what happens if the Remediation Contractor is better enlightened to the potential for causation of illness than the Independent Indoor Environmental Professional is; and the Remediator wants to perform more/different testings to assure his work is done properly?
Does he face potentially getting drummed out of business for running the tests on his own? And potential liability for not running them, if someone is injured by an incomplete job?
Does it sometimes make for a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation when the Remediator is better educated about potential causation of serious illness than the IE Professional is?
2015-05-06 09:06:43
Sharon, I understand your frustrations. That is why we teach a couple of courses to help remediators deal with them. Answering your questions would require a larger platform than this. Perhaps we’ll meet at one of those courses? To put my initial response simply: If the quality of your IEP is less than the remediator’s to recongize and/or communicate, then you’re not working with a qualified IEP.
2015-05-06 11:07:42
Great debate folks. I have forwarded this url to Michael, who is currently at the RIA, and look forward to his comments as well. Thanks so much for taking the time. We really appreciate it!
2015-05-06 11:27:42
Hi Jason,
I’m not frustrated. Just trying to understand why efficient remediation protocols as a matter of industry standards seems no more established than it did fifteen years ago. How many committees have been formed over the years to try to accomplish this? Where’s the rub? What am I missing?
2015-05-06 14:31:47
Sharon,
That is an excellent question; and again, something that requires a larger platform to cover. One of the things I see missed in the environmental audit is the determination of biological dispositions in relation to a given environmental stressor or group of stressors who, when mixed, can illicit a negative response in the defined biological type. You see: Utilizing Threshold Limit Values (TLVs) or Permissible Exposure Limits (PELs) is only part of what a qualified industrial hygienist does to meet the needs of those biological systems (e.g., pets or people) in a building. They work with medical teams for the determination of relationships. Without someone qualified to do this, the assessment is lacking, generalizations made, and post-clearance lacking any specificity when it comes to occupant safety and health. If it sounds complicated, it can be to those who aren’t trained and mentored into a proper use of the tools in our industry, building science, toxicology, and many other disciplines. This is why I encourage everyone to build an emergency response plan and team prior to the need arising. Learn from those of us who do do this kind of work, and build a protective plan and team to insulate you from fraud, unprofessionalism, all the misrepresentations and lies out there, etc.
2015-05-07 07:40:17
Jason,
Yep! A potential synergistic effect on human health via multiple biocontaminants being simultaneously present.
Speaking of IAQ pros’ dependency on toxicologists and other medical experts when determining the potential human health hazards that occur during the remediation process, those who do mold remediation work should be aware of this:
There is no longer any medical association or gov’t entity which promotes the false concept that it is proven microbial toxins in a water damaged building (WDB) could never reach a level to harm . The last piece of that thirteen year old nonsense fell from policy in mid February with the sunsetting of the ACOEM mold position statement, “Adverse Human Health Effects of Mold in the Indoor Environment”. Dr. Michael Hodgson, Medicial Director of OSHA, was instrumental in causing this change to occur.
One can read the WorkCompCentral article on it here: “ACOEM Takes Down Position Paper commonly Used to Defend against Mold Claims”
https://katysexposure.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/acoem-takes-down-position-paper-commonly-used-to-defend-against-mold-claims/
You write, “build a protective plan and team to insulate you from fraud, unprofessionalism, all the misrepresentations and lies out there, etc.” Since there are no TLV’s or PEL’s for mold and company in WDB’s, it is important that IAQ industry leaders promote measures to be taken to protect human health and the IAQ pros/clients from liability.
A team of informed professionals is a good idea. Bnd here’s where I believe that the rub comes in. A typical remediator should not have to rely on a medical professional in order to do an effective job of healing a building. Better procedural advice as a matter of suggested policy, is needed, I do believe. Its a whole new ballgame with the false concept of ACOEM finally gone from the equation.